Rocky's Position on Iran

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The Challenge

Following the catastrophic war against Iraq, it seemed improbable that less than 10 years after its commencement, we would be on the threshold of an identical situation with another Muslim nation, Iran. However this is exactly what has transpired, as the government and the media beat the war drum, enthusiastically telling the public that Iran is developing weapons of mass destruction, that their leader is the greatest threat to world peace, and that an attack may be necessary to protect humanity from this dire threat.

The playbook is nearly indistinguishable from what we heard in 2002 and 2003, and the consequences of that war are unforgivable. Up to 1 million deaths, around 4 million refugees, and trillions of dollars later, most (though not all) US troops have been withdrawn from Iraq, and the President has declared the war over (although unmanned drones are still in Iraqi airspace). But we may be on the verge of a new war, except this time against a far larger and more powerful country.  The ramifications for U.S. hostility and violence will be even far more destructive to our interests.   

The administration is doubtless being cajoled into this war by the wild rhetoric coming out of Tel Aviv, with both Israeli Prime Minister Benyamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres comparing Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Adlof Hitler. [1] [2] “Pro-Israel” officials in the US have followed this line, pressuring the Obama administration to bomb Iran, as witnessed by the Republican Primary debates, where almost all candidates have enthusiastically lined up in support of this notion.

It is clearly highly undesirable for Iran to have a nuclear weapon. That being said, it is highly undesirable that any country should have a nuclear weapon, including Israel. Though the Iranian theocracy is vile and repressive, Iran has not invaded another country in its modern history, having only been invaded by a US-backed Saddam Hussein in the 1980’s. Ahmadinejad has not launched any attacks of any significance against any foreign entities, making the comparison with Hitler nonsense. Israel, on the other hand, has invaded Lebanon – to take just one country as an example – 6 times in the last 60 years! It has invaded and occupied almost every one of its neighbors, and has launched wars that have killed on aggregate tens of thousands of people.

There are means to deter countries from obtaining nuclear weapons which do not involve launching wars likely to kill tens of thousands of people. If we value our position as a moral leader, then we should strive to enact these means. We should ignore the warmongering coming from Tel Aviv, safe in the knowledge that the Israeli people view us as being more sane and reliable on this matter than their own government. [3]

The Record of the Democratic and Republican Parties

For most Americans, U.S.-Iranian history begins in 1979, when, following the Islamic Revolution, Iranians kidnapped US citizens and held them hostage at our embassy in Tehran. For Iranians, however, the history – and the cause for the kidnappings – begins in 1953, when the CIA overthrew Mohammed Mossadegh, the democratically elected leader of the country. The reason was that he had started to nationalize the oil industry, which threatened the profits of multinationals. Hence the U.S. got rid of him, and installed the Shah, whose 26 year rule of terror was characterised by Amnesty International as presenting “the worst human rights record” of any regime in the world. [4]

A fact that is ignored in this debate is that Iran’s nuclear program was started under the Shah – a voracious torturer and key U.S. ally – with the help of Henry Kissinger and the Republicans.[5] Following the Islamic Revolution, it was Ayatollah Khomeini who actually decided to eliminate the U.S. sponsored program, calling it “the work of the devil.” The program was reopened during the US-backed Iraqi invasion, since Khomeini was looking for ways to defend his country against Saddam’s U.S.-backed invasion. [6]

According to the National Intelligence Estimate from 2007, Iran stopped its nuclear program in 2003.[7] However, the ensuing “War on Terror” was a key lesson to countries such as Iran. As leading Israeli military historian Martin von Creveld stated, they would be “crazy” not to develop nuclear weapons, since it was clear that the U.S. was going to commit unrestrained aggression against any defenseless country that had already been labelled part of the “Axis of Evil.”[8]

Although there is evidence that Iran is enriching uranium, there is no evidence that it is developing nuclear weapons. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta has said that “Are they [the Iranians] trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No.”[9] Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey concurred publicly on this point, emphasizing that the Iranians are “rational actors,” not willing to see their country vaporised in a counter strike. [10]

Nonetheless, both sides are unwilling to drop the bellicose rhetoric. Air Force Chief of Staff Norton Schwartz recently stated that the U.S. has been preparing for a strike, and with a Bush-like swagger, that “What we can do, you wouldn’t want to be in the area.” President Obama has repeatedly intoned ominously, that “no options are off the table,” thus dangling the threat of an all-out invasion over the Iranians’ heads.

Chief among the propaganda tools being used by the Bush and Obama administrations has been repeated invocation of Ahmadinejad’s threat to “wipe Israel off the map.” That threat was never made.  Ahmadinejad’s actual statement was “the Zionist regime must be eliminated from the pages of time” – a call for regime change, as with the prior changes of regimes in Iran, the Soviet Union, and Iraq,[11] not the physical destruction of a nation.[12]  Hence the case for war is being built on two false notions: that the evidence demonstrates that Iran plans to develop, or is developing, a nuclear weapon; and that it is doing this in order to drop such a weapon on Israel (and, consequently, destroy itself). Both Democratic and Republican parties, and the Bush and Obama administrations, have repeated such intimations, but they are both flatly false, and could have severe human and economic ramifications.

Rocky Anderson’s Approach Toward a Solution

Though the evidence does not establish that Iran is developing, or planning to develop, a nuclear weapon, as von Creveld stated, it would be perfectly rational for it to do so, given that countries that err from the U.S. line are threatened, so long as they are defenseless. The historical record in this regard is overwhelming, and was as true for the Iranians in 1953 when we overthrew their government as it is today. Countries run major risks when developing nuclear weapons programs – not just of military attack, but also of international diplomatic and economic isolation – and so there must be a major incentive for them to do so. The constant belligerent rhetoric and actions of the U.S. and Israel is such a motivation, and, thus, if we want to eliminate any desire for a country such as Iran to develop such capabilities, we should start off by looking at ourselves and how we can establish more constructive relations.

In addition to this just-and-peace oriented foreign policy, an Anderson administration would work towards:

-       A nuclear weapons-free zone in the Middle East. This is something that is supported by both the Iranian government, and the Israeli public. [13] [14] It would be consistent with the goal that the international community as a whole should be pursuing: de-escalating nuclear proliferation, which is a huge threat to human survival – and, ultimately, eliminating nuclear weapons altogether. Anderson would lead diplomatic efforts with partners in the Middle East to eliminate all nuclear arsenals and ensure that nobody has to live under the threat of nuclear attack.

-       A reduction of nuclear arsenals from all UN Security Council members, as well as other nuclear-weaponized states, such as India and Pakistan. Not only do we need to lead by example when calling for non-proliferation, but, very simply, the threat of nuclear weapons means the threat of a nuclear weapon being used, either by a state or a rogue actor, either of which would be catastrophic.

-       A cessation of the five-year UN program of sanctions against Iran. Given that Iran’s nuclear program is in line with international law, implementing sanctions against them is wrong – and primarily harmful to the innocent people of Iran. If Iran has, or is pursuing, a nuclear weapons program, then such actions should be considered, but given that there is no evidence for this, then there is no justification for the sanctions. Further, sanctions merely harden the resolve and truculence of the regime in Tehran, who would not want to be seen buckling under Western pressure  Thus, the only people to feel the effects of the sanctions are the suffering Iranian people, many of whom stood in candlelight vigils following the 9/11 attacks on the U.S., in solidarity and sympathy with the American people.


[4] http://blogcritics.org/politics/article/could-the-iranian-revolution-have-been/

[9] http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3460_162-57354645/panetta-iran-cannot-develop-nukes-block-strait/

[14] http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/articles/brmiddleeastnafricara/695.php

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Steve Rasmussen commented 2012-11-11 13:31:21 -0700 · Flag
Why the below was lined out, I have no idea. That was not my intent.
Steve Rasmussen commented 2012-11-11 13:29:11 -0700 · Flag
@William W. - While I agree that Iran has the right to develop nuclear energy, they should be prudent in how they go about it. They know that the eyes of the world are upon them. They should realize that a Thorium reactor would not cause any reaction at the UN due to its safety and its nonproliferation aspects. I do realize that our nation, has in the past, spun opinion to favor its foreign policy. The aluminum tube fiasco is one of these. “Saddam is seeking Uranium in Niger”, is another— and how can we forget the staged Tonkin Gulf incident that was used to galvanize the American public to back escalation of the Vietnam effort.

I am not a believer that Iran is attempting to produce a bomb but they need to realize that every nation that has made a fission bomb (at least all that I recall), has used a heavy water reactor to get there. That gives them the appearance of weapons intent, even if they are not intending to.

The US should not be issuing sanctions against Iran. Doing so only perpetuates our World Policeman status. Our endeavors around the world over the past 100 years have met the definition of Imperialism…. something of which I am not proud.
William Waugh commented 2012-11-11 08:45:42 -0700 · Flag
Response to Steve Rasmussen’s comment:

The problem with all these arguments that are promoted and prolonged only by imperialist powers in the west and their analysts and activists of all stripes, is that the nuclear power issue has become another distraction from the basic issue of equal rights for all nations and governments in international law.

For example, if this type of nuclear power reactor is cheaper and easier for Iran, why should they change and rely on another country to build it?
Iran has not broken any international law, while Israel and the US have. Iran has not threatened the US, while the US is threatening Iran with war every day, and has imposed draconian sanctions on Iran whose main purpose, as openly and shamelessly stated by some politicians and any number of other people in the US, is to create dissatisfaction among the people suffering from sanctions, so as to destabilize and weaken the government, so the regime change plan of the US can be implemented.

The whole point of the US talk about a nuclear issue, as elucidated by Ron Paul several years ago, is that US wants Iran to prove a negative, that she is not making or planning to make a nuclear bomb.

In the enforcement of laws and regulations of all kinds, the accuser has to prove that the accused did something. No one can prove that they are not thinking of committing a crime. For example, in the US a person who wants to buy a gun does not have to prove that she does not intend to kill anyone. Only criminals are supposed to be under suspicion, and that means individuals or countries that have been proven guilty. Iran has not committed any crimes. Iran is acquiring nuclear energy capability in conformance to international law. The fact that nuclear energy can at some point be extended to build bombs is even further away than saying if someone buys a gun legally he has to prove he will never use it to kill someone. In the case of a gun, one does not have to do anything but pick it up and shoot. In contrast, to transform a nuclear energy facility to a nuclear weapon facilty is a long, complicated and costly process and already the IAEA is
checking on things on an ongoing basis.

If somebody keeps accusing me that I am planning to kill someone, how many times can I repeat that I have never stated such a thing, I have sworn on the Bible or the Koran (Fatwa issued by Khomeini and reconfirmed by Khamenei aginst production of nuclear bombs in Iran) that I will not do such a thing. How can I prove to anyone that the thought of killing is not in my mind?

Nothing in governments stays secret. Photos of tortures come out. Even in Israel one of their inside persons came out and reported on their nuclear facilities. How could there be a secret plan or and discussion among Iran’s government or and ruling powers regarding building a nuclear weapon and nothing has ever come out? There is zero proof of even the thought of such an action being contemplated.

Really this pattern of misdirection has to stop, and the point should be made that Iran is an independent country and the US has no right to tell its government what decisions to make about their energy production.

Let me suggest to commentators from the US, that what really merits their attention, rather than Iran, is the way energy is produced in the US, and how much danger it is creating for the people who live in North America, and also let me suggest that such commentators should pay attention to the quantity of nuclear bombs and chemical weapons the US is producing and has used against people, and how she is using various chemical compounds against people in the Middle East every day.

Please recall that Iran was subjected to eight years of war with the use of chemical weapons against its people. Those chemical weapons were produced by Germany and sold to Saddam Hussein with the approval of the US. Why don’t US citizens first try to settle the accounts of crimes committed by the US, before they waste time and energy discussing imagined future crimes by a country 8,000 miles away?
Steve Rasmussen commented 2012-11-08 13:18:25 -0700 · Flag
Because Iran is building a heavy water reactor (at Arak?), I feel they need to be more transparent with the IAEA and the UN regarding their nuclear intent. These reactors raise eyebrows because they not only can use natural Uranium as fuel (no enrichment needed) but can produce Plutonium as a byproduct through the action slow neutrons on U 238.

I agree with the comment below about Iran’s possible use of Thorium reactors. India has at least one of these.
Kermit O commented 2012-10-17 11:36:27 -0600 · Flag
I agree with William Waugh. Most of what this page says about Iran is excellent and reasonable. “Vile and repressive” veers into scathing editorialism, and isn’t consistent with the tone of understanding, peace, and tolerance found throughout Rocky’s message here.
William Waugh commented 2012-10-13 08:33:16 -0600 · Flag
Characterizing the Iranian theocracy as “vile and repressive”, coming from a person who does not live in Iran, or in a communication whose primary audience clearly and intentionally consists of US readers, plays into the hands of our political opponents because it tends to maintain in US readers a sense of superiority and of a privilege to determine the political shape of other countries. Please remove that language and leave the internal politics of Iran to the people who live there.
Scott Baker commented 2012-07-06 12:35:24 -0600 · Flag
From my articles on Huffington Post and Op Ed News: Ending the Conflict With Iran So Everyone Wins (full version here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-baker/ending-the-conflict-with-_b_1216805.html)

Here is my proposal, in three parts,which can be applied together or separately. Adopting these proposals should please all parties. Iran would get its nuclear power. Israel and America would be assured that Iran’s nuclear fuel could not find its way into bombs.

1. Investigate and assist Iran (yes, really) in developing nuclear power plants that cannot produce plutonium, for example, pebble bed reactors. These reactors are being built for production in China and in France — which gets 80 percent of its power from nuclear sources already (We also need to centralize nuclear reprocessing as France does, so spent uranium is safe to dispose of.) For technical reasons, the embedded fuel in this kind of reactor cannot be used to produce highly enriched uranium, the source for nuclear bombs. This takes dangerous bomb-production off the table.. These kinds of thorium reactors cannot meltdown either, even when water is removed during a power outage, for example. If Fukushima had been running pebble bed reactors, or Liquid Salt Thorium reactors, there would have been no disastrous radiation leaks.

2. Involve Iran in the Global Nuclear Energy Partnership (GNEP). This is the global program to develop safe and efficient forms of nuclear energy that cannot be subverted into weapon making (i.e. no plutonium is produced, and radioactive components cannot be separated from the reactor). The U.S. and Japan are quite far along in this. It is the reactor-in-a-box approach. This program was started in the Bush administration (yes, really).

3. Set up a Global Uranium Bank. Just recently, New Scientist magazine published an article on how nations are pressing for a Global Uranium Bank to supply the inevitably increasing number of nuclear players in the world with internationally monitored sources of fuel. There is even agreement on setting up such a station in Iran, to be monitored by the IEAE. Even if thorium-based nuclear power plants aren’t yet ready for prime-time, though it is strongly in the world’s interest that they be made to be, we can control the supply of dangerous uranium through a global bank of it, and take back the waste for reprocessing that way too.
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Jerry Scott commented 2012-05-13 21:27:40 -0600 · Flag
I doubt if our turning down the rhetoric, as long as Israel is a bad actor, is going to do any good. An Israel military leader said Iran having a nuclear weapon is immaterial to Israel, just as it should be to us. Mutually assured destruction keeps everyone in line, except the nuclear energy industry. Its corner cutting has allowed several mass contaminations to occur. Yet, no one is stopping it from building more bombs. We even subsidize them. No stabile state is going to let its most powerful weapon, and a delivery system, get into someone else’s control. Some, like Pakistan, might sell the technology, but it would take a substantial actor to use it, create a delivery system, and test them without detection. We wouldn’t be able to go around destabilizing nuclear countries, which would change the balance of power, but the balance of power isn’t so good as it is.
Jeff Creer commented 2012-03-25 08:57:37 -0600 · Flag
A false sense of threat, (or real threat) is a indeed a key point, and perhaps the most difficult aspect of this situation to validate.
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Bev Switzenberg Waters commented 2012-03-24 14:55:41 -0600 · Flag
Rocky Anderson’s rationale is correct. Are we in the U.S. being goaded into false sense of threat about Iran? The points made by Mikel Covey are also right. We must not be goaded by Israel to act against our own common sense, thereby threatening not only ourselves but the rest of countries in the middle East.
Mikel Covey commented 2012-03-23 15:05:45 -0600 · Flag
The elephant in the room that everyone seems to be ignoring is the fact of mutually assured destruction (MAD), which kept the US and the USSR from employing a first strike with nuclear weapons for the several decades of the Cold War. The idea of MAD is that, while a nation may have nukes, they wouldn’t dare use them knowing that it would invite total annihilation by other nuclear-armed nations. National suicide, in other words. So, even if Iran got these weapons, so what? The real issue is that Israel wants to remain the only bully with nukes in the Middle East, so they don’t have to peacefully negotiate with their neighbors. The Israeli peace movement, as well as American Jewish progressives, have tried to employ this argument but the US press (as well as Obama) have seemed oblivious to its merits. Have we really forgotten the lessons of the Cold War so soon?
Jeff Creer commented 2012-03-23 10:02:43 -0600 · Flag
Although I too am in favor of improving our relations with Iran, the evidence still suggests they are developing nuclear weapons, despite what von Creveld has stated. Thus, Iran has a responsibility to be more convincing in their claims they are only developing nuclear capabilities for domestic energy consumption.
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