Where Do Rocky Anderson & Gary Johnson Really Stand?

Rocky Anderson thinks Gary Johnson and the Libertarian Party would be dangerous if they ever had governing authority. Here's why . . .

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Like George Bush, Gary Johnson and the Libertarian Party advocate privatization of Social Security.  For good reason, Bush’s proposal went nowhere with the public – exactly where Gary Johnson’s proposal should go. 

Social Security is a guarantee of relatively minimal support for elderly people – a common “safety net” provided by many nations that provide more to the elderly than in the U.S..  This vital program is sustainable if, as Rocky Anderson proposes, all Americans paid the same percentage of their income (from wages, salaries, and investments), without a cap that presently benefits only the wealthy. If this were accomplished, the poor and the middle class could pay less than they are paying now in payroll taxes.

Gary Johnson advocates raising the age for Social Security beneficiaries to 70 or 72.  He also proposes, instead of providing a guaranteed income for the elderly, allowing Social Security funds to be gambled away in the stock market.  Imagine if Johnson’s proposal had been in place during the many stock market disasters of the past 25 years!  Millions of people would be living in poverty, homeless, and without medical care in their last years, as during the Gilded Age and the cruel years leading up to the New Deal.

View a chart showing American Social Security benefits as a percentage of worker's income compared to other nations.

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"The [Social Security] retirement age needs to be raised. A portion of Social Security ought to be privatized, if not all. It's a Ponzi scheme that's not sustainable."

When asked what entitlements he would you go after in order to balance the budget during the Republican primary debate, Johnson answered, "Medicaid and Medicare and reforming social security."

 

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"The solution to Medicare is to provide Medicare for everybody."

"We can make it affordable, we can provide better services, and we can do it for all -- you just get the for-profit insurance companies out of the way."

"The health care system in the U.S. is excessively expensive, ineffective, and unjust. We are spending far too much, our medical outcomes are mediocre, and we are the only nation in the industrialized world that fails to provide millions of people with basic health care.  While the U.S. spends more than twice per capita than the average spent by all nations throughout the industrialized world for medical care, it obtains far worse results than most, and is alone in failing to provide essential health care to all of its citizens."

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[Johnson's] plan would cut Medicare by 43 percent and eliminate “all the mandates,” leaving it to states to set up their own health plans.

"We need to balance the federal budget. And to do that we need to start by talking about Medicare and Medicaid. I think by cutting Medicare and Medicaid by 43%, block-granting the states--50 laboratories of innovations, all-out in this notion of best practices--would in fact develop best practices for the delivery of healthcare to the poor and those over 65. And if we don't do this we're going to find ourselves bankrupt" 

 

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As our students are falling far behind relative to students in many other nations, the global competitiveness of the United States diminishes.  That means fewer jobs, a lower standard of living, and a more poorly educated populace.  We need leaders who stand for a renewed commitment to education, not a destructive retreat from a national commitment to excellence in education.

For Gary Johnson and the Libertarian Party to advocate an end to federal funding for education may make for good political pandering in some quarters, but is preposterous as a public policy proposal.  The federal government spends only about 2% of its budget providing about 9-10% of elementary and secondary school funding. 

Rocky Anderson agrees that there should be no federal unfunded mandates for schools and that the emphasis on standardized testing under No Child Left Behind was an unmitigated disaster.  However, he fully supports an increased federal commitment to equality of opportunity for students to obtain an excellent K-12 education and an affordable higher education, which will improve the quality of life for millions of American families and make the U.S. far more globally competitive in the future.

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"I am going to promise to advocate the abolishment of the federal Department of Education."

 

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Returning to the gold standard would be disastrous – and is among the most loopy ideas of the Libertarian Party. No countries have a gold standard. Zero economists endorsed the idea in a recent poll. A recent Atlantic magazine article recently called returning to the gold standard the “World’s Worst Economic Idea.” A gold standard would prevent the central bank from fighting recessions because monetary policy would be dependent upon how much gold we have. The inflexibility of a gold standard could turn recessions into depressions. Also, there would be enormous instability in inflation under a gold standard. During 1919-1931, when the U.S. had a gold standard, CPI inflation fluctuated wildly, from 25% to -15%.

According to Rocky Anderson, “Anyone who advocates a return to the gold standard either knows nothing about economics or is pandering to voters who know nothing about economics."

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"I think that [a switch to a gold or commodity-based currency standard] would be very positive."

 

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“Big oil and its supporters are lying about the benefits of this project and underestimating the costs. The only ones who will benefit are the big oil companies. One spill from this proposed pipeline could inflict irrevocable damage to drinking water and farmlands in the Midwest. We cannot ignore the Deepwater Horizon oil spill of 2010. These tragic events are not only possible, they are inevitable. To approve the Keystone Pipeline is to encourage the transfer and use of dirty fuel from oil sands and sabotages our commitment to a clean energy economy.”

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"I completely support the Keystone Pipeline if, if it's not an issue of the government implementing eminent domain to procure right of ways... I really don't understand where the regulatory hurdles are... I would certainly remove the regulatory hurdles."

  

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"NAFTA and CAFTA were betrayals to working people and their families and should be repealed or, at the least, re-negotiated so that employers of U.S. workers are placed on a more equal footing with employers of people in other nations. We should do what we can to return to the United States jobs lost to other countries as a result of the globalization of capital and the free trade agreements that benefited primarily the multi-national corporations that have moved many, if not all, of their operations outside of the U.S."

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Johnson stands for "free trade," and has said he wants "no tariffs, no restrictions" on trade.

 

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Not only does Rocky adamantly support a minimum wage, he proposes boosting the minimum wage to no less than $10.00 an hour, with future increases to be tied to the rising cost of living, as a vital step to ensure that low wage earners can better bridge the gap between income and expenses.

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Yes, you read that correctly -- Gary Johnson actually is against a federal minimum wage. Johnson is "against the idea of having a national minimum wage policy, as he feels that a uniform minimum wage rate across the country does not take into account the difference in living costs between regions and its respective local job market [sic], while potentially causing some industries to lose their competitive edge."

 

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 "To get money out of politics, the first priority in an Anderson presidency would be passing a constitutional amendment overturning the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United ruling."

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“I think it comes under the First Amendment, that they should be able to contribute as much money as they want.”

 

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 Watch the full debate on HuffPostLive in which Rocky and Gary participated.

To all well-meaning supporters of Libertarian Gary Johnson:

Many people support Gary because, like Rocky Anderson, he supports ending the war in Afghanistan now, ending drone strikes, U.S. empire-building, and civil rights abuses. 

However, do you know that Gary Johnson would:

  • Destroy Social Security, turning it into a private system where people’s retirement security could be destroyed by a turn in the stock market?
  • Oppose governmental protections ensuring that food and drug products are safe for our consumption?
  • Refuse to honor the Genocide Convention (ratified by the U.S. Senate) by acting with the international community to stop genocides like the Holocaust?
  • Refuse to provide any aid to any other country, no matter how crucial?
  • Oppose a woman’s right to choose abortion after the first trimester?
  • Oppose governmental action to combat climate change?
  • Scale back U.S. involvement in the United Nations?
  • End federal Medicare and Medicaid assistance to the elderly and others in need, leaving such programs entirely to the states (which could deny assistance altogether)?
  • Oppose any federal healthcare program, including single-payer, leaving healthcare in the hands of the “private sector”?
  • Oppose any federal jobs initiatives such as the Works Progress Administration (WPA), which put 8.5 million people to work building up the nation’s infrastructure?
  • Oppose not only an increase in the federal minimum wage, but oppose any minimum wage at all?
  • Oppose a requirement that health insurance companies provide birth control?
  • Allow the “free market” to determine whether there should be expanded offshore oil drilling, without federal protections?
  • Leave it to the states to decide which of the U.S. National Parks and Forests should be protected?
  • Kill the Department of Education and undermine public schools by shifting education funding to private schools?
  • Oppose affirmative action?
  • Oppose limits on or prohibitions of Super PACS, on the ground that “any restriction on campaign spending violates the first amendment”?

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Pat McMahon commented 2012-11-05 16:46:09 -0700 · Flag
This Rocky sounds a little punch-drunk, although I’m happy he isn’t masquerading as a “great compromiser” like the liar-in-chief. The so-called “Justice Party” he runs in would turn the entire US into a Fascist state where Corporations serve the government at beck and call for the benefit of party favor rather than being at the mercy of their consumers.

All private business, devoid of “personhood” (called that rather than selective citizen right disenfranchisement), would cease to compete with federal shell-businesses. In the end we’d all just be drinking Victory liquor and smoking Victory cigarettes while hoping the Victory viewing machine in the front window didn’t catch us and demand 40 pushups.

Oh the joys of all citizens being bureaucrats. The “Justice Party” is really the “Social Justice Party.” Enjoy the short and destitute road to serfdom.
Matt W. commented 2012-11-03 02:27:18 -0600 · Flag
Mr Quirk-

Your paranoid fantasies of Libertarianism stemming from Randian fiction are entirely misplaced and unfounded.

I’m very glad you could muster the evidence to prove that Libertarianism “is a dangerous and failed philosophy”. In fact, how could it be failed if it has never been tried. Surely the current system works, no?

Oh, my mistake. The current system is the failed one.
Jared Irvin commented 2012-11-03 00:31:02 -0600 · Flag
I like Rocky Anderson. He means well and he would do a lot of good. However, I did know everything here and I agree with Gary on all of it.

By the way, some of these are misleading and inaccurate. Gary Johnson wants to disable the Department of Education because ever since it was formed in 1979 the quality of public schools has gone way down and is still going down. It is the problem, not the solution. Gary doesn’t want to switch funding to private schools, he wants government to get the f*ck out.
James Quirk commented 2012-10-30 21:41:50 -0600 · Flag
I personally like Gary Johnson, by the way. I think he is sincere and well-meaning. Unfortunately, his political ideas are very wrong. Libertarianism is economic conservatism and severe “austerity” under another name. It is not what need to move forward. Rocky Anderson’s progressive values stand in clear contrast to Gary Johnson’s failed ideas, which are shared by the fanatical supporters of Ron Paul and other equally misled persons.
James Quirk commented 2012-10-30 21:38:31 -0600 · Flag
Both Johnson and Anderson are better candidates than Obama and Romney, but the difference is quite clear. Libertarianism is a dangerous and failed philosophy of “rugged individualism” based largely on the ideas of pseudo-philosopher Ayn Rand. We absolutely cannot afford an “experiment” with Libertarianism, which is essentially the failed conservative economic policies of the past few decades on steroids. We need the tried and true progressive values of Rocky Anderson, which haven not been seen since the Reagan Revolution, and we know what the result of that has been.
Charles Lupton commented 2012-10-30 19:46:35 -0600 · Flag
You provide several soundbites of Gov. Johnson positions but soundbites do not provide the full picture. Please let’s not be like the D and R parties attacking each other and instead focus on each of our own ideas.

Example: Yes, Gov. Johnson wants to get rid of the Federal Department of education. However, Federal DoE gives $0.14 of mandates for every $0.09 the states. It’s a small portion, but eliminating actually gives the states a net boost by allowing them to craft education priorities specific to that state and the labor needs of that state. That would be far better than the top down system we have now.
Patrick McGean commented 2012-10-30 13:00:02 -0600 · Flag
Divide and conquer, the only way that a third party effort becomes viable is when we all stand together, healthy. When healthy medicare and social security become mute points. Anonymous for President could be Rocky
of Gary but if our write in votes are to count choose one person.
Dancing with the Candidates will give you a venue for doing so.
4 November 2012, 6 -9 pm pacific on American voice radio.com.
Who will Anonymous be?
we vote on the 6th.
got sulfur?
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